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		<title>By: Amanda Chapel</title>
		<link>http://www.bivingsreport.com/2006/the-pr-blogger-that-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Chapel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 19:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Baradell and Gregory Kohs are two of my most avid (rabid) fanatics.  It threatens them and they just can&#039;t get past it.

They are a good a case of net anonymity if there ever was one.

Regards,

- Amanda Chapel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Baradell and Gregory Kohs are two of my most avid (rabid) fanatics.  It threatens them and they just can&#8217;t get past it.</p>
<p>They are a good a case of net anonymity if there ever was one.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>- Amanda Chapel</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Kohs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Kohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care about the &quot;fictional character&quot; aspect.  I don&#039;t care about the &quot;trouble for the PR world&quot; aspect.

What I care about is the hypocrisy.

Amanda posted a comment here, asking why her (albeit technically delayed) &quot;thoughtful response&quot; was taken down.  When my &quot;thoughtful response&quot; to one of her early blog posts was not approved, she told me (in as many words) to &quot;shove it&quot;.

Then, miss Minnie Mouse character at Disney proceeded to tie up my e-mail inbox for two straight days, threatening legal action against my employer.  Why?  Because I was &quot;harassing&quot; a FICTIONAL character?  I didn&#039;t know they had standing in a court of law.

Please don&#039;t misinterpret me.  I like the *IDEA* behind Strumpette.com.  What I don&#039;t like is the execution of the content, in that there is hypocrisy and threat lying in wait, whenever the tide turns personally against &quot;Amanda&quot;.

And, by the way, check out the traffic stats for Strumpette.com on Alexa.com.  Run a regression line through that data, and it doesn&#039;t look promising for Brian Connolly.  Sorry!  Amanda Chapel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care about the &#8220;fictional character&#8221; aspect.  I don&#8217;t care about the &#8220;trouble for the PR world&#8221; aspect.</p>
<p>What I care about is the hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Amanda posted a comment here, asking why her (albeit technically delayed) &#8220;thoughtful response&#8221; was taken down.  When my &#8220;thoughtful response&#8221; to one of her early blog posts was not approved, she told me (in as many words) to &#8220;shove it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Then, miss Minnie Mouse character at Disney proceeded to tie up my e-mail inbox for two straight days, threatening legal action against my employer.  Why?  Because I was &#8220;harassing&#8221; a FICTIONAL character?  I didn&#8217;t know they had standing in a court of law.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t misinterpret me.  I like the *IDEA* behind Strumpette.com.  What I don&#8217;t like is the execution of the content, in that there is hypocrisy and threat lying in wait, whenever the tide turns personally against &#8220;Amanda&#8221;.</p>
<p>And, by the way, check out the traffic stats for Strumpette.com on Alexa.com.  Run a regression line through that data, and it doesn&#8217;t look promising for Brian Connolly.  Sorry!  Amanda Chapel.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.bivingsreport.com/2006/the-pr-blogger-that-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

If you read Media Orchard, you know that I am not opposed to criticism of the public relations industry. In fact, I often delight in it.

Personally, I just think the guy who claims to be Amanda Chapel is a jackass.  And so I have written as much on my blog. If you do not think this man is a jackass, read away and enjoy.

Cheers

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>If you read Media Orchard, you know that I am not opposed to criticism of the public relations industry. In fact, I often delight in it.</p>
<p>Personally, I just think the guy who claims to be Amanda Chapel is a jackass.  And so I have written as much on my blog. If you do not think this man is a jackass, read away and enjoy.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Del Porto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Del Porto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogging is about candor and authenticity. You can’t claim these virtues if you won’t identify yourself.

I can´t say I see why candor and authenticity and necessities for good blogs, especially if satire and commentary is the point (which is what the vast majority of the blogosphere concerns itself with).  I think Thomas Paine would agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogging is about candor and authenticity. You can’t claim these virtues if you won’t identify yourself.</p>
<p>I can´t say I see why candor and authenticity and necessities for good blogs, especially if satire and commentary is the point (which is what the vast majority of the blogosphere concerns itself with).  I think Thomas Paine would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Zeigler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Zeigler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda,

Your original comment was stuck in moderation - Wordpress is trying to shut you up too.  The comment is now approved and viewable by all.
Oh, and trouble = good.

TZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,</p>
<p>Your original comment was stuck in moderation &#8211; Wordpress is trying to shut you up too.  The comment is now approved and viewable by all.<br />
Oh, and trouble = good.</p>
<p>TZ</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Chapel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Chapel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rita - I wrote a thoughtful response to this thread.  Why was it taken down?

Shel - &quot;Online credibility is based on transparency.&quot; Says who?  And who are you Shel to be so dogmatic on an open frontier?

&quot;Blogging is about candor and authenticity.&quot;  That&#039;s pure donkey dust.  Blogging is about writing.  And frankly, I&#039;ll compare notes with you as to writing skill any day of the week.

Todd - &quot;Trouble&quot;... I hope you were not being pejorative.  A little creative turbulence is a good thing.  In the PR business, it&#039;s long overdue.

Kind regards,

- Amanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rita &#8211; I wrote a thoughtful response to this thread.  Why was it taken down?</p>
<p>Shel &#8211; &#8220;Online credibility is based on transparency.&#8221; Says who?  And who are you Shel to be so dogmatic on an open frontier?</p>
<p>&#8220;Blogging is about candor and authenticity.&#8221;  That&#8217;s pure donkey dust.  Blogging is about writing.  And frankly, I&#8217;ll compare notes with you as to writing skill any day of the week.</p>
<p>Todd &#8211; &#8220;Trouble&#8221;&#8230; I hope you were not being pejorative.  A little creative turbulence is a good thing.  In the PR business, it&#8217;s long overdue.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>- Amanda</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Zeigler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Zeigler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t thing Strumpette strives for credibility.  He/she is trying to make mischief.  Seems off point to criticize Strumpette for not being transparent when his/her sole purpose is to cause trouble.  Or to expose hypocricy, as Amanda put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t thing Strumpette strives for credibility.  He/she is trying to make mischief.  Seems off point to criticize Strumpette for not being transparent when his/her sole purpose is to cause trouble.  Or to expose hypocricy, as Amanda put it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shel Holtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shel Holtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Online credibility is based on transparancy. Strumpette has none (of either). That&#039;s why identity matters. The anonymous blog of a New York City bouncer is one thing; nobody is going to make career or professional decisions based on what he writes. A purported PR blogger is another thing altogether, as would be one from a lawyer, an engineer, or a doctor. Blogging is about candor and authenticity. You can&#039;t claim these virtues if you won&#039;t identify yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online credibility is based on transparancy. Strumpette has none (of either). That&#8217;s why identity matters. The anonymous blog of a New York City bouncer is one thing; nobody is going to make career or professional decisions based on what he writes. A purported PR blogger is another thing altogether, as would be one from a lawyer, an engineer, or a doctor. Blogging is about candor and authenticity. You can&#8217;t claim these virtues if you won&#8217;t identify yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Chapel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Chapel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rita,

Word is that a few of the PR blogger gang mugged Minnie Mouse at Disney World a few days ago.  Turns out she’s just some poor housewife from Orlando.  She should be out of the hospital in a few weeks.  The PR bloggers are less threatened, at least for the time being.

Anyway, I wrote the following on PBS.org’s Mediashift the other day.  It bears repeating: I remember my close friend Marcy once hired the Bloomingdale’s Santa to come to her house and surprise her young kids. When he showed up, they cried; they screamed! They were absolutely terrified. Anyway, that Santa was still paid for the visit; and still there was a huge line the next day of other kids that wanted to meet him.

Although perversely flattering, the debate of identity misses the point altogether. However noisy, it is motivated by a few literal minds and blog pilgrim fundamentalists. That’s too bad.

Strumpette is representative of the PR business. It’s a satire whose mission it is to pick at the root hypocrisy that grips that business. Some get it. Some rail against it. A whole lot are reading every word.

Thank you for your commentary.

Kind regards,

- Amanda Chapel
Editor
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rita,</p>
<p>Word is that a few of the PR blogger gang mugged Minnie Mouse at Disney World a few days ago.  Turns out she’s just some poor housewife from Orlando.  She should be out of the hospital in a few weeks.  The PR bloggers are less threatened, at least for the time being.</p>
<p>Anyway, I wrote the following on PBS.org’s Mediashift the other day.  It bears repeating: I remember my close friend Marcy once hired the Bloomingdale’s Santa to come to her house and surprise her young kids. When he showed up, they cried; they screamed! They were absolutely terrified. Anyway, that Santa was still paid for the visit; and still there was a huge line the next day of other kids that wanted to meet him.</p>
<p>Although perversely flattering, the debate of identity misses the point altogether. However noisy, it is motivated by a few literal minds and blog pilgrim fundamentalists. That’s too bad.</p>
<p>Strumpette is representative of the PR business. It’s a satire whose mission it is to pick at the root hypocrisy that grips that business. Some get it. Some rail against it. A whole lot are reading every word.</p>
<p>Thank you for your commentary.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>- Amanda Chapel<br />
Editor<br />
Strumpette.com</p>
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		<title>By: Rita Desai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita Desai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

I don&#039;t understand why the nature of her true identity really matters at all. Also, her bio &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strumpette.com/archives/69-Drug-Pushers-and-an-Open-Letter-to-Johns-and-Jessicas.html#comments&quot; target=&quot;new&quot;&gt;offended an Edelman employee by the name of Kate&lt;/a&gt;, whose comment on one of Strumpette&#039;s posts referred to her supposed lascivious escapades. Phil Gomes also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strumpette.com/archives/69-Drug-Pushers-and-an-Open-Letter-to-Johns-and-Jessicas.html#comments&quot; target=&quot;new&quot;&gt;refers to her &quot;loose ways&quot; when commenting&lt;/a&gt;. Her bio, which I took as a joke, is used against her. She says she&#039;s a character, so why does her true identity even matter?

Just strikes me as a really bizarre situation.

Thanks,
Rita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why the nature of her true identity really matters at all. Also, her bio <a href="http://www.strumpette.com/archives/69-Drug-Pushers-and-an-Open-Letter-to-Johns-and-Jessicas.html#comments" target="new">offended an Edelman employee by the name of Kate</a>, whose comment on one of Strumpette&#8217;s posts referred to her supposed lascivious escapades. Phil Gomes also <a href="http://www.strumpette.com/archives/69-Drug-Pushers-and-an-Open-Letter-to-Johns-and-Jessicas.html#comments" target="new">refers to her &#8220;loose ways&#8221; when commenting</a>. Her bio, which I took as a joke, is used against her. She says she&#8217;s a character, so why does her true identity even matter?</p>
<p>Just strikes me as a really bizarre situation.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Rita</p>
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