Blog Impact at the IPR Summit on Measurement

Posted on October 15th, 2007
By Chuck Fitzpatrick in Bivings, Blogs, ImpactWatch, Monitoring, Social Networks

Back on Oct. 3rd through the 5th Alex and I attended the Institue for Public Relations’ 5th annual Summit on Measurement in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Overall the event was fantastic. I spend all day working on ImpactWatch, the media measurement platform created by The Bivings Group, so it was great to meet with a group of 100+ media measurement, media research, and social network gurus.

The session I was most interested in attending was “How to Measure the Impact of Blogs and Other Consumer-Generated Media.” This was a panel discussion including Shel Israel , Kami Huyse , Todd Parsons, Donald McLagan from Compete Inc, and moderated by KD Paine . Unfortunately I set my expectations too high. Not that the session was bad, it just wasn’t what I expected. I think Shel summed it up best when he said that we haven’t been doing this long enough to have best practices “We’re just at the ‘good ideas’ stage.” As such, it seemed like the discussion took a turn towards the merits of doing social media measurement at all. Todd and Donald (and I) think there is absolutely value in it, that’s why we provide products and services doing exactly that. Some thought that it was a waste of time. It was also suggested that the whole point of social media is the conversations it creates which are hard to measure at all. I agree that it’s ideal to have blogs and social networks facilitate conversations and generate engagement, and it is something that is hard to measure. I don’t think that’s what it’s all about. This was confirmed when the audience was asked to raise their hands if they had a personal or corporate blog. Almost everybody raised their hands. When asked if they comment on other blogs, the hands dropped to about a third of the audience.

Most readers are still going to blogs to learn more about subjects they are interested in. They aren’t necessarily interested in joining the conversation. Therefore, many traditional web metrics still apply.

In conclusion, it was certainly valuable to learn that blog measurement is something everybody is still trying to get a handle on right now. In fact, the direction we’re headed with ImpactWatch looks pretty advanced compared to what other folks are doing.

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  1. shel israel

    I’m sorry we did not better meet audience expectations. Joining the conversation is not just about leaving comments. It’s about one person, either at the top or bottom of an organization saying something that is valuable or interesting and the word spreading from one blog to another until a great many people become aware of the subject. The conversation can be started by a person with three readers or 300,000. The point is that conversations are no longer controlled by people who want to maintain command or control. I cannot tell you how to measure it, because that is not my purview. I can tell you when the measurement does not make sense to the conversation.

  2. Kami Huyse

    I believe it is critically important to measure social media. I think that the tools to do so are becoming more and more sophisticated. But as you probably know, even among those that measure web metrics, there is much disagreement about how accurate they are. For instance, is it all about eyeballs (page views) or conversion? Just to name one controversy.

    I do think it is important to have the higher level conversations about why measurement in this space matters and I think the heart of it is that we have to figure out ways to measure relationships.

    There is a tiny number of people that actually engage in the social part of social media; however, they tend to be influencers in the media and with their circle of friends that reach beyond the Internet.

    There are so many approaches to this issue and proprietary algorhythms that are being developed. It would help if we did know what the basis of measurement would be. But, it is so specific to the goals and objectives of the organization that I think that any standards would have to be both flexible to the desired use and scalable to the size of the campaign and/or organization. As such, I think that meaningful standards are still a complicated issue.

    Would love to learn more about what ImapactWatch does. Thanks for the comments about our panel.

    Next year, case studies?

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