Comments on: The Problem with Newsvine http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/ The Bivings Report (TBR) is a source of news, insight, research and analysis on the web-based communications industry. TBR content is posted, created and managed by internet strategists, media/communications analysts, web developers, designers and programmers, all of whom are employees of The Bivings Group. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:12:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Investorguru http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-236045 Investorguru Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:11:26 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-236045 Newsvine is failing. As noted on Alexa, it loads slower than 80% of other sites. It's basically a chat room disguised as "articles", with AP feeds and links provided by users to other articles. Faster & easier to use a news aggregator than it is to use Newsvine. If you're up for articles like "my list of worst TV shows," "who's most popular (or hottest) on Newsvine, or flamefests, then Newsvine is for you. Newsvine is failing. As noted on Alexa, it loads slower than 80% of other sites. It’s basically a chat room disguised as “articles”, with AP feeds and links provided by users to other articles. Faster & easier to use a news aggregator than it is to use Newsvine. If you’re up for articles like “my list of worst TV shows,” “who’s most popular (or hottest) on Newsvine, or flamefests, then Newsvine is for you.

]]> By: Anna Haynes http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181477 Anna Haynes Thu, 17 May 2007 05:26:54 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181477 I bet the site's impenetrability-at-first-glance is a feature - it'll filter out the riffraff. (it also filters out you and me, but as long as those who make it through the filter are motivated, high-quality commenters, we won't really be missed.) I bet the site’s impenetrability-at-first-glance is a feature – it’ll filter out the riffraff.

(it also filters out you and me, but as long as those who make it through the filter are motivated, high-quality commenters, we won’t really be missed.)

]]> By: Paul William Tenny http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181450 Paul William Tenny Thu, 17 May 2007 03:18:59 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181450 The community involvement is what seals the deal for me. My blog (especially now) gets more pageviews, but hardly any comments. My Newsvine column gets few pageviews, but almost always the articles get comments -- even if only a few. I also was very vocal about getting the front page redesigned to favor original written content over seeds and AP. The compromise was anyone can change the page to suit their own interests, and that's good enough. I certainly think other parts of the site need attention more urgently than new features. The code they use to sanitize HTML comments has several flaws that can make posting certain links extremely difficult. The total lack of ability to use span tags with style settings is inexcusable. But it gets the job done. The community involvement is what seals the deal for me. My blog (especially now) gets more pageviews, but hardly any comments. My Newsvine column gets few pageviews, but almost always the articles get comments — even if only a few.

I also was very vocal about getting the front page redesigned to favor original written content over seeds and AP. The compromise was anyone can change the page to suit their own interests, and that’s good enough.

I certainly think other parts of the site need attention more urgently than new features. The code they use to sanitize HTML comments has several flaws that can make posting certain links extremely difficult.

The total lack of ability to use span tags with style settings is inexcusable. But it gets the job done.

]]> By: miss j aka urbane gorilla http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181427 miss j aka urbane gorilla Thu, 17 May 2007 02:32:45 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181427 oh, and visit my column: melonhead.newsvine.com oh, and visit my column:
melonhead.newsvine.com

]]> By: miss j aka urbane gorilla http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181426 miss j aka urbane gorilla Thu, 17 May 2007 02:30:45 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181426 I have a suggestion. Visit the site every day for , say, 2 weeks. Register. Dive in. Then report back. I have a suggestion. Visit the site every day for , say, 2 weeks. Register. Dive in. Then report back.

]]> By: Celestina http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181357 Celestina Wed, 16 May 2007 23:26:35 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181357 One of the things I have always loved about Newsvine is the way you can jump from the mainstream media feeds directly into the user-submitted opinions about those stories. Often, you find users bringing two or three recent stories together to explore the deeper ramifications. As to the community, it really is the most welcoming, open community I have found anywhere online. It may not seem obvious, browsing the front page, but leap to the comment thread on any article and you will find it all around you. One of the things I have always loved about Newsvine is the way you can jump from the mainstream media feeds directly into the user-submitted opinions about those stories. Often, you find users bringing two or three recent stories together to explore the deeper ramifications.

As to the community, it really is the most welcoming, open community I have found anywhere online. It may not seem obvious, browsing the front page, but leap to the comment thread on any article and you will find it all around you.

]]> By: Todd Zeigler http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181354 Todd Zeigler Wed, 16 May 2007 23:22:05 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181354 Cash - thanks for your comment. I was writing this as a casual user trying to identify reasons I've never become a heavy user. Everything I read says Newsvine has a great and vibrant community and when I've gotten into the depths of the site I've seen it for myself.  I wish this community was reflected more on the homepage somehow. Cash – thanks for your comment.

I was writing this as a casual user trying to identify reasons I’ve never become a heavy user.

Everything I read says Newsvine has a great and vibrant community and when I’ve gotten into the depths of the site I’ve seen it for myself.  I wish this community was reflected more on the homepage somehow.

]]> By: Cash http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-181307 Cash Wed, 16 May 2007 20:48:34 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-181307 Todd, I think it's no different than any other site - you just jump in and make it happen. Once a month won't do that. I get 10X as many readers on my personal site as I do Newsvine and 100X as many on scientificblogging.com, but neither of those generate the community interaction and comments I get on Newsvine. So for overall readership it is rather insular - no one ever gets even 1000 hits being the top article on Newsvine whereas I get 35,000+ being on the front page of Digg - but for just having fun and interacting with people it can't be beat. Todd, I think it’s no different than any other site – you just jump in and make it happen. Once a month won’t do that. I get 10X as many readers on my personal site as I do Newsvine and 100X as many on scientificblogging.com, but neither of those generate the community interaction and comments I get on Newsvine.

So for overall readership it is rather insular – no one ever gets even 1000 hits being the top article on Newsvine whereas I get 35,000+ being on the front page of Digg – but for just having fun and interacting with people it can’t be beat.

]]> By: Community is the hard part » mathewingram.com/work http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-180904 Community is the hard part » mathewingram.com/work Wed, 16 May 2007 02:56:33 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-180904 [...] Then there’s MySpace News, which some argue is a ghost town, and others say merely needs some work. And there’s Newsvine, which some argue isn’t as successful as it could be (and I would agree). And finally, there is the sad tale of how Derek Powazek and his wife were pushed out of the wonderful photo community/magazine they founded called JPG. What do all of these have in common? Community. I know that’s an overused word, but I think it is the key to the success or failure of virtually every online venture that tries to get “users” involved in some way. [...] [...] Then there’s MySpace News, which some argue is a ghost town, and others say merely needs some work. And there’s Newsvine, which some argue isn’t as successful as it could be (and I would agree). And finally, there is the sad tale of how Derek Powazek and his wife were pushed out of the wonderful photo community/magazine they founded called JPG. What do all of these have in common? Community. I know that’s an overused word, but I think it is the key to the success or failure of virtually every online venture that tries to get “users” involved in some way. [...]

]]> By: links for 2007-05-16 « David Black http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-180876 links for 2007-05-16 « David Black Wed, 16 May 2007 01:41:56 +0000 http://www.bivingsreport.com/2007/the-problem-with-newsvine/#comment-180876 [...] The Problem with Newsvine » The Bivings Report “In the end, when visiting Newsvine I don’t feel that I’m getting a good editorial view of things (like the New York Times) or a purely social view either (like Digg).” (tags: internet socialmedia news aggregators newsvine) [...] [...] The Problem with Newsvine » The Bivings Report “In the end, when visiting Newsvine I don’t feel that I’m getting a good editorial view of things (like the New York Times) or a purely social view either (like Digg).” (tags: internet socialmedia news aggregators newsvine) [...]

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